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  • Pete bats at Wrigley Field
  • Bud Harrelson dukes it out with Pete Rose
  • Pete Rose, baseball's most famous bettor
  • Pete Rose and Frank Robinson
  • Famous photo of Pete at the 1980 All-Star banquet.
  • Tommy Helms, Vada Pinson, and Pete Rose
  • Pete Rose
  • Bobby Tolan, Pete Rose, Johnny Bench, Alex Johnson
  • Pete Rose will always be remembered for gambling on baseball, overriding his on-field accomplishments
  • Joe with teammates Pete Rose and Johnny Bench
  • Joe Morgan at the unveiling of the Pete Rose statue
  • Pete Rose with son Petey
  • Jim Hickman's 12-inning RBI game-winning single in the 1970 All-Star Game resulted in Pete Rose barreling into Ray Fosse and separating his shoulder.
  • Pete Rose in Game Seven
  • Pete Rose
  • Pete on the day he broke Ty Cobb's all-time hits record.
  • Joe Morgan with Pete Rose and Tony Perez on cover of SI
  • Johnny's terammate Pete Rose gets air-borne on the bases.
  • Pete Rose in 1972 World Series
  • Pete Rose, Joe Morgan, Johnny Bench
  • Gary Peters wins Rookie of the Year award along with Pete Rose
  • Pete Rose said Sparky Anderson was the best manager he ever played for
  • Pete in more recent years.
  • Joe Morgan with teammate Pete Rose

Pete Rose, RIP

“Doctors tell me I have the body of a thirty-year-old. I know I have the brain of a fifteen-year-old. If you’ve got both, you can play baseball!” –Pete Rose

The entire baseball world was deeply saddened yesterday to learn of the passing of Pete Rose at age 83 (April 14, 1941-September 30, 2024). Those of us who saw Pete play regularly will never forget the fire and intensity he brought to the game. Love him or hate him, there’s no disagreement he was a great ballplayer one of the best ever.

Pete Rose 

Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson are truly two of baseball’s most tragic figures, and there are many similarities between their two cases, besides the fact that they were both great players. Pete’s reputation suffered self-inflicted damage and was forever tarnished by his flagrant violations of one of baseball’s most sacred cows: the prohibition against gambling on games. Joe Jackson was accused of participating in the 1919 plot to throw the World Series.  As a result, both received lifetime banishment for their infractions. A case can be made that Jackson was innocent of the charge. But with Pete, there was never any doubt. And the fact that he lied about his involvement for years severely damaged his case for reinstatement when he finally came clean. Pete has another connection to the Black Sox scandal. As did Buck Weaver, he applied many times for reinstatement. Neither were successful.  

On this sad occasion, I thought it would be appropriate to repost an essay I wrote about Pete a few years ago. In it, I address his career, his gambling offenses, and my thoughts on his reinstatement and eligibility for the Hall of Fame. I don’t expect you to necessarily agree with me, but I hope you take the time to read it.

Pete Rose Steps to the Plate for the First Time, April 8, 1963!

1963 Rookie of the year, Pete Rose

“Somebody’s gotta’ win and somebody’s gotta’ lose…and I believe in letting the other guy lose!” –Pete Rose

The quote above nicely summarizes the competitive nature of “Charlie Hustle,” Pete Rose.  It’s sort of the baseball equivalent of a famous quote from another well-known competitor, General George Patton: “Don’t die for your country. Let the other guy die for his country.” (paraphrasing).

A Historic day

Opening Day, April 8, 1963, was a significant date in major league history, although at the time, no one could possibly have known it. On that date, a young, 21-year-old rookie from Cincinnati strode to the plate for his first major league at-bat. It was the Reds vs. the Pirates at Crosley Field. The second batter in the Reds’ lineup, the kid coaxed a walk off the Pirates’ Opening Day right-handed hurler, Earl Francis. He then scored a run two batters later when Frank Robinson blasted one out of the park. But it was a rather inauspicious beginning for the kid, as he went 0-for-3 in his first game.

Pete Rose in 1965 in a game against the Pirates in Forbes Field.

The Rook also went for the collar in the next three games and suddenly found himself 0-12, reminiscent of the major league debut Willie Mays twelve years earlier. As Leo Durocher did for Willie, Pete’s manager, Fred Hutchinson, stood by him despite his early-season struggles. Then finally, in Game Four, on April 13, his luck turned. In the bottom of the eighth, after a previous infield out, a hit-by-pitch, and a walk in his first three at-bats, the kid finally came through with a triple, his first major league hit.

When he finally hung up the spikes in 1986, 24 seasons later, this same rookie, who, of course, we know as Pete Rose, had collected 4,256 hits and had retired as the all-time major league career hits leader, breaking the record of 4189 hits set by Ty Cobb.

Pete’s Great Career

Of course, you can’t mention Pete Rose without opening up the controversy about his ban from baseball and his eligibility for the Hall of Fame. Before you make up your mind, here are a few highlights from his great career:

The collision with Ray Fosse

Pete played for the Reds (1963-78), Phillies (1979-83), Expos (1984), and Reds again (1984-86). He managed the Reds from (1984-89). In addition to his 4256 hits, Pete batted .303, with 160 home runs, 746 doubles (National League record), 1,314 RBIs, 2,165 runs (National League Record), and a .375 on-base percentage. He holds major league records for singles (3,215), games played (3,562), plate appearances (15,890), and at-bats (14,053). In 268 post-season at-bats covering 67 games, he hit .321. His 44-game hitting streak in 1978 is second all-time in the modern era to Joe DiMaggio’s 56. Pete holds many other major league records, too numerous to list here.

Pete was a 17-time All-Star, a member of three World Series championships (1975, 1976, 1980), National League Rookie of the Year (1963), World Series MVP (1975), three-time National League batting champion (1968, 1969, 1973), two-time Gold Glove winner (1969, 1970), Silver Slugger Award winner (1981), Roberto Clemente Award winner (1976), and member of major league baseball All-Century team. His #14 has been retired by the Reds and he has been elected to the Reds Hall of Fame. 

Should He Be In or Out?

Should his lifetime ban be lifted? Should he be in the Hall of Fame? I say let him in. I guess I’m more of the lenient and forgiving type (just ask my wife and kids!). That’s just my opinion and I certainly don’t expect everyone to agree with me. No doubt Pete broke one of baseball’s sacred rules and then lied about it for 15 years. He deserved punishment. But I think at this stage he’s suffered enough. I think his punishment should have started from the point he finally “came clean,” which was 2004. A ten-to-fifteen-year ban seems like it would have been appropriate. It would be over by now.

Let’s not forget that the offense that got him banned in the first place – betting on baseball – is now a legal activity and has become a multi-million dollar industry, engaged in by tens of thousands of fans. It’s sanctioned and even encouraged by major league baseball itself, with betting venues popping up at numerous major league ballparks. Granted, his offense was made many times worse by the fact that he did it while in uniform, and then lied about it, so his offense warranted significant punishment. But, considering all, I can’t help but see the lingering hypocrisy of the situation.

And let’s also not forget that we’re still recovering from the “steroid era,” an offense that I feel is much worse than anything Pete Rose ever did. None of the offenders – some of whom also have lying under oath on their rap sheet – have ever been banned from the game to my knowledge.

I don’t think keeping the game’s all-time hits leader out of the game and out of the Hall of Fame is good for anyone, especially since his offense is one that is now indulged in legally by thousands of fans. No doubt Pete has paid a steep price for his offenses and self-inflicted wounds. I say let him back in. Again, that’s just my opinion, and I certainly respect the opinion of others who disagree with me.

Gary Livacari 

Photo Credits: All from Google search

Information: Excerpts edited from Pete Rose Wikipedia page; Stats from Baseball-reference.com

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