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Part Two of Paul Doyle’s Posts on Baseball “Scribes.”
As some of you will remember, in Part One in his two part series on baseball scribes, Paul Doyle featured Hall-of-Fame sportswriter, Fred Lieb. Today, he takes a chapter from Lieb’s classic book, Baseball As I Have Known It, and presents Lieb’s personally selected All-Star teams from four different eras.
Well, as baseball history buffs, this is right up our alley! So feel free to comment one way or another. You can either agree or disagree with Lieb’s selections. But keep in mind: Lieb actually saw these guys play over his 70 years in the game!
Fred Lieb’s All Time First 100 Years All-Star Teams
Fred Lieb closed the chapter of his classic Baseball As I Have Known It, published in 1977 with his “All Time All-Star Teams.” He selected four teams from 1876 to 1975 in eras 25 years apart. This was 1977, and Fred had personally seen all the players selected for his last three teams and maybe some from the 1876-1901 era.
He presented them with the closing line of “Let the Arguments Begin.” There is a gap of 42 years since the book was published and 44 since the “ballot box” closed.
In making his selections, Lieb allowed for two catchers, one utility infielder and outfielder, and eight pitchers. The only exception he made in any era was a tie for first baseman in the 1926-1950 era, with a dual selection of Lou Gehrig and Bill Terry. He acknowledged that Gehrig had the edge in every batting statistic except lifetime average (.341 to .340), but considered Terry the greatest fielding first base man he ever saw, with the possible exception of George Sisler, and (remember Bill Gutman’s article of last week) Hal Chase with the disclaimer “when Hal was giving his all.”
Without further ado, here are the selections:
1876-1901
1B—Fred Tenney
2B—Nap Lajoie
SS—Bobby Wallace
3B—Jimmy Collins
UIF—John McGraw
LF—Jesse Burkett
CF—Hugh Duffy
RF—Willie Keeler
UOF-Billy Hamilton
C—Buck Ewing
C—Mike “King” Kelly
P—Cy Young, Hoss Radbourne, John Clarkson, Tim Keen, Pud Galvin, Mickey Welch, Amos Rosie, Bob Caruther
1901-1925
1B—George Sisler
2B—Eddie Collins
SS— Honus Wagner
3B—Frank Baker
UIF—Rogers Hornsby
LF—Ty Cobb
CF—Tris Speaker
RF— Babe Ruth
UOF— Henry Heilmann
C—-Roger Bresnahan
C—Johnny Kling
P—Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Grover Alexander, Eddie Plank, Jack Chesbro, Mordecai Brown, Ed Walsh, Rube Waddell
1926-1950
1B—Lou Gehrig/Bill Terry
2B— Charley Gehringer
SS—Joe Cronin
3B—Pie Traynor
UIF—Frank Frisch
LF—Ted Williams
CF—Joe DiMaggio
RF—Stan Musial
UOF-Paul Waner
C—Bill Dickey
C—Mickey Cochran
P— Bob Feller, Lefty Grove, Carl Hubbell, Ted Lyons, Dizzy Dean, Red Ruffing, Dazzy Vance, Waite Hoyt
1951-1972
1B— Gil Hodges
2B— Jackie Robinson
SS— Pee Wee Reese
3B—Brooks Robinson
UIF—Joe Morgan
LF—Hank Aaron
CF—Willie Mays
RF— Roberto Clemente
UOF—Mickey Mantle
C—-Yogi Berra
C—-Roy Campanella
P—Sandy Koufax, Warren Spahn, Bob Lemon, Early Wynn, Whitey Ford, Robin Roberts, Bob Gibson, Juan Marichal
Wow. It’s pretty hard for us – from our 21st century vantage point – to argue with much of this. The only other editorial comment Lieb made in the book was that he thought Tom Seaver, Johnny Bench and Catfish Hunter merited consideration for the 1951-1975 era, but only if each could have “two or three more good years” then they would be considered for the 1976-2000 team. Lieb was a tough taskmaster!
So, the beauty of being a baseball fan is to come up with your own lists and counter argue with any selection you might disagree with. And while you’re at it, try to further Lieb’s footsteps and pick the next 25 year era from 1976-2000. Lieb used his own eyes and the traditional statistics to make his selections, but in doing so he may have germinated a future phenomenon – WAR, except in this case, it’s the “War” between fans picking their own choices, maybe even over a cold one somewhere!
Paul Doyle (Posted by Gary Livacari)
Photo Credits: All from Google search
Information: From Baseball As I Have Known It, by Fred Lieb
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